Below is an audio recording, and a copy of the transcript of the interview, which I downloaded from the PRI's The World web site. Following that is the actual article Jeff Stien wrote about the CIA operations. I have links up to everything for you to verify this information for yourself. However, I did copy everything to this post in case they decide to take their's down.
Jeff Stein talks about the CIA making fake videos in an attempt to discredit former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, and later another video that would show Osama Bin Laden and his cronies sitting around a campfire passing around a bottle of whiskey and talking about having sex with their favorite boys. Stein says his sources told him that they didn't make the video tape of the one to discredit Saddam Hussein, but he does say they made the Osama Bin Laden tape. Hiring actors and using "dark-skinned" CIA agents.
During the conversation, Werman and Stein discuss how the CIA was going to create a "fake newscast" that would be "popped into Iraqi television", sort of "a special bulletin announcement", and "Saddam would come on" and say he’s abdicating in favor of his son Uday and "in the script" he would be saying, "I’m sure you would all swear your allegiance to his Excellency Uday".
Stien gets a big laugh out of the whole situation. Stein tells Werman that, "even in discussing this, my sources and I just broke out laughing because we knew how reviled Uday was". It was disturbing listening to him because Werma seems to have no regard for the fact that the CIA would be completely lying to thousands of Iraqi people. Eerie is a good word to use to hear Werma laughing about playing these mind control games on the Iraqi people. Either men make no mention of that fact at all in the interview or article. It seems to be just fun & games to them.
I also questioned how the CIA had planned to "pop the special news bulletin announcment into Iraqi television". Wouldn't they have needed government authorization from Saddam himself at the time? But this interview makes me question so much more.
Considering all the videos the U.S. Government has shown us with Osama Bin Laden threatening America, and especially now telling us they have killed him when so many, many people believe him to be dead since December of 2001, it makes one wonder what is the American Government is up to this time.
Is Barack Obama trying to score points with the American people because his polls are so low. Would he resort to Mind Control like this in order to bring his polls up? Considering the Communist ties Barack Obama has, it would seem he would resort this low. That's how I see it anyway. The facts are below. You have to decide for yourself.
At the end of the news columns I have included some of the comments that were posted on the pages. You might want to read them and go to the links as well.
Extremely interesting, however! Wouldn't you say? Are you starting to get it yet, America?
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Fake Saddam video plot
By The World ⋅ May 27, 2010
Anchor Marco Werman
http://www.theworld.org/2010/05/fake-saddam-video-plot/
Before the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, the CIA tossed around various ideas for discrediting Saddam Hussein. One involved producing a fake Saddam sex video. Anchor Marco Werman speaks with Washington Post columnist Jeff Stein about some of the plans and why they were scrapped.
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MARCO WERMAN: When it comes to covert CIA operations, there is the high tech, like the remote control drones that strike at militants in Pakistan. And then there’s the outlandish, like trying to kill Cuba’s Fidel Castrol with an exploding cigar. Well, here’s a more recent outlandish CIA plot. It was an attempt to discredit Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein on the eve of the Iraq war. The idea was to produce a fake video of Saddam having sex with a teenage boy. SpyTalk columnist Jeff Stein wrote about this in his Washington Post column SpyTalk. Jeff, tell us more about this just outlandish plot for lack of a better word.
JEFF STEIN: Well they were kicking around ideas in the Iraq operations group of what to do in terms of psychological warfare or information operations. One of the ideas that somebody came up with was to create a video that would look like a secretly recorded video, grainy, black and white kind of thing, of Saddam having sex with a teenage boy. And it didn’t fly.
WERMAN: And it didn’t fly. Why not?
STEIN: Well wiser heads came to the table. When the idea, I’m told by my sources, the idea was floated by people who had careers in Latin America and east Asia and they didn’t understand as some of the people familiar with the Middle East pointed out to them, is that such relationships are quite common in the Arab world. You there are customs in the region where young boys are kind of cajoled and pressured into the trade, if you will, by older men and they’re sort of swapped around. And so this video portraying Saddam having this might have set off some titters, but it wouldn’t have discredited him.
WERMAN: Now this wasn’t a flash in the pan. Your column mentions another CIA covert idea that involves, again, sex with children. This was a video that actually was made to discredit Osama Bin Laden. What did it show?
STEIN: Right, that was along sort of the same lines. The agency found a contractor to make another video that would show Osama Bin Laden and his cronies sitting around a campfire passing around a bottle of whiskey and talking about having sex with their favorite boys and so on. This one was actually made. My sources say it took about six weeks. There were professional makeup artists. “Darker skinned” CIA employees were recruited to act the part of Osama and his circle. But a lot of money was thrown at it and they did do it. But it was never broadcast or copies made.
WERMAN: Have you seen it? Do you know anybody who has seen it?
STEIN: I know someone who participated in it.
WERMAN: Like an actor?
STEIN: I’m not going to say exactly who it was, but someone who participated in making this film gave me the details, even voice coaches were provided. Shiatsu massage was available.
WERMAN: Craft service table?
STEIN: It was like a set.
WERMAN: Can you tell us where it was shot?
STEIN: It was done in a secret location out in Virginia near Culpepper, Virginia. In the CIA’s defense, which is difficult in the circumstances, except that they didn’t go through with this. You know, we pay these guys to sit around and be imaginative, think of ideas, and some of those ideas, inevitably, are going to be pretty stupid. And someone did call them out on it and said this is really stupid. So they didn’t go ahead with it, so I supposed you’ll have to give them some credit for that.
WERMAN: Another idea concerned a fake news program that showed Saddam Hussein passing power to his son Uday. What was that about and why was it ultimately rejected?
STEIN: That one was, to me, the most imaginative and clever. Pretty funny, because Uday, the son was widely reviled. So there was going to be this fake newscast that would be popped into Iraqi television, sort of a special bulletin announcement, and Saddam would come on and say he’s abdicating in favor of his son Uday and in the script he would be saying I’m sure you would all swear your allegiance to his Excellency Uday. And even in discussing this, my sources and I just broke out laughing because we knew how reviled Uday was. But there was a grain of brilliance to the idea.
WERMAN: Jeff Stein writes the column SpyTalk which appears in the Washington Post. Jeff, thank you very much.
STEIN: Thanks for having me.
* For more see Jeff Stein’s SpyTalk at the Washington Post
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CIA unit's wacky idea: Depict Saddam as gay
During planning for the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the CIA's Iraq Operations Group kicked around a number of ideas for discrediting Saddam Hussein in the eyes of his people.
One was to create a video purporting to show the Iraqi dictator having sex with a teenage boy, according to two former CIA officials familiar with the project.
“It would look like it was taken by a hidden camera,” said one of the former officials. “Very grainy, like it was a secret videotaping of a sex session.”
The idea was to then “flood Iraq with the videos,” the former official said.
Another idea was to interrupt Iraqi television programming with a fake special news bulletin. An actor playing Hussein would announce that he was stepping down in favor of his (much-reviled) son Uday.
“I’m sure you will throw your support behind His Excellency Uday,” the fake Hussein would intone.
The spy agency’s Office of Technical Services collaborated on the ideas, which also included inserting fake “crawls” -- messages at the bottom of the screen -- into Iraqi newscasts.
The agency actually did make a video purporting to show Osama bin Laden and his cronies sitting around a campfire swigging bottles of liquor and savoring their conquests with boys, one of the former CIA officers recalled, chuckling at the memory. The actors were drawn from “some of us darker-skinned employees,” he said.
Eventually, “things ground to a halt,” the other former officer said, because no one could come to agreement on the projects.
They also faced strong opposition from James Pavitt, then head of the agency’s Operations Division, and his deputy, Hugh Turner, who “kept throwing darts at it.”
The ideas were patently ridiculous, said the other former agency officer.
“They came from people whose careers were spent in Latin America or East Asia” and didn’t understand the cultural nuances of the region.
“Saddam playing with boys would have no resonance in the Middle East -- nobody cares,” agreed a third former CIA official with extensive experience in the region. “Trying to mount such a campaign would show a total misunderstanding of the target. We always mistake our own taboos as universal when, in fact, they are just our taboos.”
A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, declined to confirm the accounts, or deny them.
"While I can't confirm these accounts, if these ideas were ever floated by anyone at any time, they clearly didn't go anywhere," the official said.
The reality, the former officials said, was that the agency really didn’t have enough money and expertise to carry out the projects.
“The military took them over,” said one. “They had assets in psy-war down at Ft. Bragg,” at the army’s special warfare center.
“The agency got rid of most of its non-paramilitary covert action in the 1980s, after Bill Casey died,” said the third former official. “He was a big fan of covert action, but neither Bob Gates, who succeeded him as acting [CIA] director, or any after him, wanted anything to do with it.”
“There was a flurry of activity during the first Gulf War,” the official added, “but [Gen. Norman] Schwarzkopf made it clear he had to approve everything, and he basically approved nothing, except, reluctantly at first, surrender leaflets. By the late '90s there were very few people left who knew anything about covert action or how to do it."
The leaflets also had “unintended consequences,” the former official added.
“In the perverted logic of Iraq, the Iraqi soldiers decided they had to have a leaflet to surrender, so they fought us to get one."
According to histories of the 2003 invasion, the single most effective “information warfare” project, which originated in the Pentagon, was to send faxes and e-mails to Iraqi unit commanders as the fighting began, telling them their situation was hopeless, to round up their tanks, artillery and men, and go home.
Many did.
Hear a further discussion of the videos on PRI's The World.
One was to create a video purporting to show the Iraqi dictator having sex with a teenage boy, according to two former CIA officials familiar with the project.
“It would look like it was taken by a hidden camera,” said one of the former officials. “Very grainy, like it was a secret videotaping of a sex session.”
The idea was to then “flood Iraq with the videos,” the former official said.
Another idea was to interrupt Iraqi television programming with a fake special news bulletin. An actor playing Hussein would announce that he was stepping down in favor of his (much-reviled) son Uday.
“I’m sure you will throw your support behind His Excellency Uday,” the fake Hussein would intone.
The spy agency’s Office of Technical Services collaborated on the ideas, which also included inserting fake “crawls” -- messages at the bottom of the screen -- into Iraqi newscasts.
The agency actually did make a video purporting to show Osama bin Laden and his cronies sitting around a campfire swigging bottles of liquor and savoring their conquests with boys, one of the former CIA officers recalled, chuckling at the memory. The actors were drawn from “some of us darker-skinned employees,” he said.
Eventually, “things ground to a halt,” the other former officer said, because no one could come to agreement on the projects.
They also faced strong opposition from James Pavitt, then head of the agency’s Operations Division, and his deputy, Hugh Turner, who “kept throwing darts at it.”
The ideas were patently ridiculous, said the other former agency officer.
“They came from people whose careers were spent in Latin America or East Asia” and didn’t understand the cultural nuances of the region.
“Saddam playing with boys would have no resonance in the Middle East -- nobody cares,” agreed a third former CIA official with extensive experience in the region. “Trying to mount such a campaign would show a total misunderstanding of the target. We always mistake our own taboos as universal when, in fact, they are just our taboos.”
A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, declined to confirm the accounts, or deny them.
"While I can't confirm these accounts, if these ideas were ever floated by anyone at any time, they clearly didn't go anywhere," the official said.
The reality, the former officials said, was that the agency really didn’t have enough money and expertise to carry out the projects.
“The military took them over,” said one. “They had assets in psy-war down at Ft. Bragg,” at the army’s special warfare center.
“The agency got rid of most of its non-paramilitary covert action in the 1980s, after Bill Casey died,” said the third former official. “He was a big fan of covert action, but neither Bob Gates, who succeeded him as acting [CIA] director, or any after him, wanted anything to do with it.”
“There was a flurry of activity during the first Gulf War,” the official added, “but [Gen. Norman] Schwarzkopf made it clear he had to approve everything, and he basically approved nothing, except, reluctantly at first, surrender leaflets. By the late '90s there were very few people left who knew anything about covert action or how to do it."
The leaflets also had “unintended consequences,” the former official added.
“In the perverted logic of Iraq, the Iraqi soldiers decided they had to have a leaflet to surrender, so they fought us to get one."
According to histories of the 2003 invasion, the single most effective “information warfare” project, which originated in the Pentagon, was to send faxes and e-mails to Iraqi unit commanders as the fighting began, telling them their situation was hopeless, to round up their tanks, artillery and men, and go home.
Many did.
Hear a further discussion of the videos on PRI's The World.
By Jeff Stein | May 25, 2010; 6:00 AM ET
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COMMENTS THAT WERE POSTED FOLLOWING THE STORIES:
I've posted some of the comments from these posts, because these people seem to get it. They actually see how the CIA admits making fake Osama & Hussein videos and admits to Pedophilia. Some didn't, but these did. The first one is my favorite. He's so right on.
What has just been admitted:
(1) The CIA has access to boys from teen to prepubescent children and will use them.
(2) The CIA has the ability to interrupt News Casts.
(3) The CIA has an Office of Technical Services, which will (apparently) use boys and pre teens in videos, if it suits.
(4) Where are the drunken "boys" who sat around with the "darker skinned employees" getting drunk with the OBL look-alike?
(5) Whose to say the other "dodgey vids" of OBL are legit if the CIA admits it not only has an OBL double, but a Saddam double?
(7) The CIA have assets in Psy-War at Fort Bragg - where that shooter went nuts; did he find out about this program as "a dark skinned employee"?
(8) "The perverted logic of Iraq." You must be kidding!
No one will back Saddam as a victim, but stooping to such vile and repugnant levels is not Warfare and Honour - it is Thuggery to the Extreme.
1) Is the Mexican Gulf ‘Deepwater Horizon’ oil leak designed to sabotage, cripple and bankrupt BP? Is it a take over bid by the US government (CIA-Blackwater XE) protected American oil companies to monopolise the global energy industry chain from exploration to retail distribution? Is reality better than fiction?
http://www.youtube.com/spsyed
2) Is there a need to investigate whether the bombs going off in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan are being planted by the CIA-Blackwater XE Delta Force working with their own Orange Force in the three countries and in Europe, USA, India, South Korea and elsewhere? Is reality better than fiction?
Posted by: spsyed | May 26, 2010 11:29 AM
UNO as a coordinator USA went into a treaty with government of Pakistan in 1973 to create anti narcotics force. I joined it as a law enforcement officer. We were trained by Pakistan Police, a team of DEA and US Custom. We were promised a brilliant future. The moment DEA and US Custom left Pakistan, our troubles started. We were dubbed as CIA agents. Most of my colleagues died and many of them went mad. I was ousted in 1980 and am still without a job. The bottom line is that US Ministry of Justice hire mercenaries from poor countries and leaves them at the mercy of cruel rulers.
Posted by: shahjahanbhatti1 | May 25, 2010 11:30 AM
CIA has a history of interfering in other countries going back decades. The information is on the web and easy enough for a ten year old to find. If you cant see the truth, for your sake and everyone elses, don't have children ( if you already have, please get them neutered )
http://wfol.tv/editorial/3378-the-cia-the-biggest-terrorist-organization-on-earth.html
Posted by: jiji1 | May 25, 2010 10:04 PM
This really does make me wonder....most of the young troops over in the wars believe that Osama bin Laden was killed years ago at Toro Bora---so wonder if the CIA is releasing made up/fake tapes of him talking so we can continue these wars???? Money is behind everything and war is big bucks. If we really knew what was going on behind the scenes it would probably scare us all to death...
Posted by: Sherry91 | May 25, 2010 3:56 PM
As a victim of what appears to be a multi-agency, fusion center - coordinated campaign of professional and personal character assassination and physical and psychological abuse, I have received direct and indirect communications, or have heard slander from vigilante community goon squad "stalkers," inferring that I am gay; a pedophile; a radical; a paranoid schizophrenic; a money launderer; a wife abuser, etc. etc.
I am none of the above.
If elements of a rogue bureaucracy are engaged in such slanders and libels against an American journalist, it is surely no surprise that these same ham-fisted, tragi-comedic "methods and tactics" would be employed against Saddam.
So when will the Obama administration get a grip on rogue, and inept, elements within the security-intel bureaucracy?
Here are links to articles that apparently inspire my continued persecution and personal and career sabotage by elements of a multi-agency fusion center Gestapo:
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-censors-net-political-speech-targeted-americans OR NowPublic.com/scrivener
Posted by: scrivener50 | May 25, 2010 11:51 AM
Wow! This was broadcast a week ago and there are NO comments?
Am I the only one who finds it disturbing that:
1. the CIA would try to trick a nation's population with something like a fake video like this. How do we know similar techniques have not been used to influence the US Population (e.g. the Osama bin Laden video where he allegedly admits to orchestrating 9/11, but where his nose doesn't look quite right)
2. They were going to show someone who looks like Saddam (probably a pedophile) having sex with a teenage boy...and just where were they going to get the teenage boy from?
3. Whether or not these plans are executed are up to a room full of CIA agents and their (unelected) moral values.
Obviously not many people would have problems in creating hatred towards Saddam, Uday and Bin Laden, but where else have these tricks been used?? In the fake OBL video on youtube where he has the beer gut and the flat nose.
Sorry, but I don't trust the CIA to do the right thing. In a democracy, NO ONE should.
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PLEASE SEE RELATED LINKS:
OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! AGAIN!
http://mryansrants.blogspot.com/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-is-dead-again-media.html
Obama's "Big Lie": White House Propaganda and the “Death” of Osama bin Laden
http://mryansrants.blogspot.com/2011/05/obamas-big-lie-white-house-propaganda.html
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